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Charlotte Hornets select PJ Hairston with the #26 pick


After selecting Shabazz Napier at 24, the Charlotte Hornets trade him away for the Miami Heat's #26 pick and two second rounders.

they use that #26 pick to select elite shooter PJ Hairston.

What are your thoughts on this pick?


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    BrotherDave
    Jun 27 2014 02:01 AM

    I'm glad we didn't draft Napier.  Hairston was a good pick up but Cho is so full of shit in terms of drafting character guys.  Hairston is hopefully kept on a really short leash, like kept in Zeller's closet.

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    CarolinaBlue23
    Jun 27 2014 02:31 AM

    Hairston will get to be around guys like Big AL, Patrick Ewing, Kemba, & possibly McRoberts. He will see M.J. from time to time & know what is expected of him. He has gotten a second chance & it would be up to him not to blow it. 

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    BPfromfrance
    Jun 27 2014 02:50 AM

    I was not as enthousiastic as many here about Hairston, but still at 26 with adding more assets, it's a great great move for Cho

     

    One thing is sure: he's been very well scouted so Cho&co must be very confident about this pick. 

     

    I'm not sure he starts over Hendo this year (and even gets minutes from Neal) as some says but he looks like one of the most NBA ready player in this draft

    funny trend on twitter

     

    https://twitter.com/...Kemba"&src=tren

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    kickazzz2000
    Jun 27 2014 07:09 AM

    Listening to Mike and Mike this morning, they had an ESPN NBA "expert" on, and all were just going on and on and on about how what Miami really needed was a PG and how it was so amazing that the one guy Lebron really wanted would fall into their laps and how it was so impressive that they made it happen.  I'm seriously like "is this real life i'm listening to?"  Tim Legler is stealing money from ESPN.  They also asked him who made the best moves in terms of making themselves attractive to free agents, and he gave the most general answer possible..."the top 10 went as expected, but some teams in the middle of the draft really picked up some nice pieces."  No examples given.

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    krazyrumpshaker
    Jun 27 2014 08:05 AM

    We traded back and still got "our man", the only bad part is that I have to root for a tar heel but as long as he hits shots I think I will live.

    Hey I felt the same way at first, then I thought, I can easily pull for someone who made UNC look so silly and dumb for the entire world to see. He was a headcase for sure, but I cant deny his talent. I will pull for him to do well here even though he is from UNCheat!!

    Absolutely loved this draft for Charlotte.  Two very good players at later than they should have been available.  Great night for the Hornets.

    Yeah I agree, totally happy we got this guy.

    PJH Scouting Report. 

     

     

    A lot of those weaknesses seem to be coachable, aside from explosiveness. He looks like he's going to fit our needs really well. Let Kemba be the guy to break down his man and Hairston be the dagger.

    I will say, this is not what I wanted to see from our guy who we're hoping is over his character issues: 

     

    http://instagram.com/p/pu8ZPPCXWf/

     

    And by the way, having a party certainly does NOT mean there is anything negative about the guy. I was just hoping to see more humility and laying low after being picked. 

    I will say, this is not what I wanted to see from our guy who we're hoping is over his character issues:

    http://instagram.com/p/pu8ZPPCXWf/


    I kinda wonder if we thought of the value of Haywood being in our locker room vs. the $2mm capspace he offers as a GSO native and UNC alum.

    I kinda wonder if we thought of the value of Haywood being in our locker room vs. the $2mm capspace he offers as a GSO native and UNC alum.

     

    At $2M, I'm pretty sure FO thinks they can over that with other guys.

    At $2M, I'm pretty sure FO thinks they can over that with other guys.


    Exactly who are we going to get for $2mm that went to UNC and grew up in Greensboro? :) My point was a mentor with the UNC/GSO connection to PJ.
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    High Upside
    Jun 27 2014 10:33 AM

    Where is this elite 3 point shooting stuff coming from? He shot like 1 percentage point better than Hendo from 3 last year.

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    The Prodigy
    Jun 27 2014 10:45 AM

    I'll be honest, im not big on this kid. I dont think he'll do much for us, but I hope im wrong.

    Where is this elite 3 point shooting stuff coming from? He shot like 1 percentage point better than Hendo from 3 last year.


    Not sure if anyone is claiming his elite, his (significant) upside over Junior as far as I am concerned is that he actually shoots from the outside. I am seeing 7.8 attempts per game vs. 1.5/gm for Gerald. (from http://basketball.re...n/Summary/24153). Now he's doing that with a D-League hand in his face and I don't know that guarantees he puts up nearly 8 threes a game (and it might drive us crazy if he's doing that at 30% but if he's a decent threat from three, it will really open up the floor more than anything other than Tolliver's streak last year can do).

    I wish I could claim this as my handy work:  

     

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    InProblematique
    Jun 27 2014 12:15 PM

    I will say, this is not what I wanted to see from our guy who we're hoping is over his character issues: 

     

    http://instagram.com/p/pu8ZPPCXWf/

     

    And by the way, having a party certainly does NOT mean there is anything negative about the guy. I was just hoping to see more humility and laying low after being picked. 

    I mean, I see what you're saying, but he didn't get to go to the draft, and I'm sure he wanted some way to just let it out. I'm only a little older the P.J., and I've been to (and at the center of) a ton of those kinds of parties, so I'm totally okay with it, as long as he knows his limits. And since we haven't heard about our possible starting SG being locked up yet, I'm assuming things went well.

     

    You have to think how much pent up frustration P.J. has dealt with. Getting the boot from one of the most prominent programs in the country, being forced to the D-League, sitting at home in the draft, being picked 26th when he should have been picked where LaVine was picked...I'm honestly surprised he held out this long. Throw it out there, let P.J. have his night the best way he can have it since he's not in NYC, and now expect him to come into Charlotte today to get back on the path he was doing so well in at Texas. 

     

    He's definitely a type A personality who has shown a TON of restraint and maturity for the past 7 or so months, and I'm sure he was bursting at the seems to just have a night that was all about him again, and to be considered the "hometown hero" again, to help repair the damage caused by knowing what a lot of people felt when he got shown the door. I think he needed that one good party.

    Just give Peej a chauffeur and all "character issues" will evaporate.  

     

    It does worry me a bit that he may be too close to home and that his boys will bring him down but I think/hope he's learned his lesson, and from the emotional reaction after being drafted by us, I believe he has.

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    InProblematique
    Jun 27 2014 12:21 PM

    Just give Peej a chauffeur and all "character issues" will evaporate.  

     

    It does worry me a bit that he may be too close to home and that his boys will bring him down but I think/hope he's learned his lesson, and from the emotional reaction after being drafted by us, I believe he has.

    Plus, now he's actually getting "properly" paid. So that's one area of concern out the door. 

     

    For real though, this staff and the guys on our team aren't going to give P.J. much more than an inch. They'll probably recruit CMPD to arrest anyone who looks like they might be a friend of P.J.'s on sight. lol

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    QC Thundercats
    Jun 27 2014 12:46 PM

    I will say, this is not what I wanted to see from our guy who we're hoping is over his character issues: 

     

    http://instagram.com/p/pu8ZPPCXWf/

     

    And by the way, having a party certainly does NOT mean there is anything negative about the guy. I was just hoping to see more humility and laying low after being picked. 

    If I know anything about party promoters, they jump at any chance to throw a celebrity onto their advertisements to get people in the door.  I'm pretty sure PJ had nothing to do with it, he was probably just invited to go to a party in his hometown to honor him, which I think pretty much 99% of top draftees have, and the promoters printed out their cards.  I could understand people's concerns over his other actions, but this would not raise a single concern for me at all.

     

    And I don't think he's a headcase at all (not your comment, someone else mentioned that).  He's always done what he's told on the court and is very respectful.  His transgressions are not assholish or ego centric by any means.  He got caught with weed (will be legal soon enough).  He was driving without a license (a mistake many people have made, and doesn't make you a bad person).  He drives really fast (can't say I've never hit triple digits.  Its a guy thing I guess).  Drove a car rented by a big, notorious name in his hometown (unfortunately, many people like to prey on young athletes with money and benefits.  Its hard to turn down, and he should have known better, but the greatest word in the english language is "free", so he was just being normal?)

     

    So this is all just immaturity and needing to grow, and not a matter of being a character problem. 

     

    Where is this elite 3 point shooting stuff coming from? He shot like 1 percentage point better than Hendo from 3 last year.

    PJ is elite.  When he has it going, his jumper is a thing of beauty, and he has easy range out to 30 feet.  The 36% can be explained by an extremely high usage, since D-league teams tend to gun threes like nothing else.  Also, there is always an adjustment for college players getting used to the longer NBA distance.  For him to be at 36% already in his first year is actually amazing, and I easily see him as a low 40s% shooter for his career.

     

    And even at 1% point better than Hendo, he actually makes three 3s per game, and will be seen as a constant threat from the perimeter, where Hendo averaged like .5 made 3s per game, and can be ignored from deep.  Will be a huge difference on the court.

     

     

    And here were his averages as a starter his last year at Carolina:

    18.2 points, 5.5 rebounds, 40.2% 3FG (41-102), 3.2 made 3s/game

     

    He stepped up even bigger on the big stage when the postseason started.

     

    ACC Tourney:

    20.7 points, 3.8 rebounds, 48.4% 3FG (13-27), 4.3 made 3s/game

     

    NCAA Tourney:

    19.0 points. 7.0 rebounds, 47.1% 3FG (8/17), 4 made 3s/game

     

    He is every definition of the word elite shooter to me.

     

     

     

     

    Also, I found an old post I made last March in the run up to the draft.  Still feel the same way:

     

    Ben McLemore has been hyped all season as the best shooting guard by far, and the best overall prospect that should be picked #1 (after Noel went down of course).

    So now my question, and I know this may sound homerish of me, but why is McLemore such a better prospect than P.J. Hairston? Both are 20 and 2 years out of high school, with P.J. being only 50 days older. Ben is 6-5, 195 pounds and very athletic, while P.J. is 6-5, 220 pounds and has very sneaky, underrated athleticism. But P.J. is much much stronger than Ben, even guarding power forwards this year, and would be able to match up physically with guys in the NBA.

    As for their stats, we all know P.J. was coming off the bench most of the season for who knows why. But if you look at all the games P.J. started and actually got significant burn (the last 13 games of the season) here are his stats:

    18.2 points
    5.5 rebounds
    1.1 assists
    2 steals
    45% FG (76-170)
    40% 3FG (41-102)
    77% FT (44-57)

    While Ben's stats as a starter are:
    15.8 points
    5.3 rebounds
    2 assists
    1 steal
    49% FG
    42% 3FG
    87% FT

    They are both good rebounders for the position, but it shows P.J. has been a better scorer, while Ben has been a better shooter. However, what good is shooting better when you shrink in big moments, or are afraid to take big shots. That was never a problem with P.J., as he took and nailed big shot after big shot all through the ACC tourney and short NCAA run. I'd also say P.J. is a better ball handler and much more creative and instinctive at driving to the rim and creating offense.

    So I'm not saying take P.J. at the #1 pick, because if he's rated at the end of round 1, then by all means, trade back for multiple picks and steal him at the end of the round. But I'm just wondering what everyone sees that makes Ben such a can't miss prospect while P.J. is just ho hum and not on anyone's radar. 

    Because they are both the same age and height, with P.J. being much stronger, more aggressive, a better ball handler, has more of a take over mentality, and has incredible range as well. Is it because Ben might one day have a light go on several years down the line and turn into a monster scorer? You don't often see the timid turn into monsters. I mean, wouldn't P.J.'s shooting and aggressiveness be a better fit for us then Ben's shooting and non-aggressiveness?

    I don't know, which is why I'm asking the question. Convince me that Ben is such a better prospect, and that I'm crazy for even comparing the two.

     

     

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    InProblematique
    Jun 27 2014 01:21 PM

     

    If I know anything about party promoters, they jump at any chance to throw a celebrity onto their advertisements to get people in the door.  I'm pretty sure PJ had nothing to do with it, he was probably just invited to go to a party in his hometown to honor him, which I think pretty much 99% of top draftees have, and the promoters printed out their cards.  I could understand people's concerns over his other actions, but this would not raise a single concern for me at all.

     

    And I don't think he's a headcase at all (not your comment, someone else mentioned that).  He's always done what he's told on the court and is very respectful.  His transgressions are not assholish or ego centric by any means.  He got caught with weed (will be legal soon enough).  He was driving without a license (a mistake many people have made, and doesn't make you a bad person).  He drives really fast (can't say I've never hit triple digits.  Its a guy thing I guess).  Drove a car rented by a big, notorious name in his hometown (unfortunately, many people like to prey on young athletes with money and benefits.  Its hard to turn down, and he should have known better, but the greatest word in the english language is "free", so he was just being normal?)

     

    So this is all just immaturity and needing to grow, and not a matter of being a character problem. 

     

    PJ is elite.  When he has it going, his jumper is a thing of beauty, and he has easy range out to 30 feet.  The 36% can be explained by an extremely high usage, since D-league teams tend to gun threes like nothing else.  Also, there is always an adjustment for college players getting used to the longer NBA distance.  For him to be at 36% already in his first year is actually amazing, and I easily see him as a low 40s% shooter for his career.

     

    And even at 1% point better than Hendo, he actually makes three 3s per game, and will be seen as a constant threat from the perimeter, where Hendo averaged like .5 made 3s per game, and can be ignored from deep.  Will be a huge difference on the court.

     

     

    And here were his averages as a starter his last year at Carolina:

    18.2 points, 5.5 rebounds, 40.2% 3FG (41-102), 3.2 made 3s/game

     

    He stepped up even bigger on the big stage when the postseason started.

     

    ACC Tourney:

    20.7 points, 3.8 rebounds, 48.4% 3FG (13-27), 4.3 made 3s/game

     

    NCAA Tourney:

    19.0 points. 7.0 rebounds, 47.1% 3FG (8/17), 4 made 3s/game

     

    He is every definition of the word elite shooter to me.

     

     

     

     

    Also, I found an old post I made last March in the run up to the draft.  Still feel the same way:

     

     

     

    I liked your post and just realized it was your 200th. And very well deserved. Said everything I've been wanting to say, but have been way too drunk/hungover to do so (yeah, I P.J.'d it last night, because I'm of age and allowed to do so when I'm happy).

     

    P.J. is already in Charlotte (Charlotte just posted a candid picture of Peej on facebook wearing a nice suit, looking genuinely happy), and I know that once he's on the court, it's all game for him. He showed that in Texas, where he matured a hell of a lot. And the first part of your comment was dead on. 

     

    Yes, I've smoked weed. And I liked it. So have most of you. P.J. got caught, and it was stupid of him, I am not going to say it wasn't. But it isn't a "character flaw". I'd honestly rather have P.J. getting stoned when he feels like having a good time, rather than having him get wasted from drinking. The worst he can do whilst high is get way too amped about playing himself on 2K15 when it comes out. 

     

    Yes, I've driven without a license, and I got caught doing so as well. I was lucky and got a slap on the wrist. P.J., again (like me) made a stupid, immature error in judgement. That doesn't make him a bad person.

     

    As for the car thing...well...honestly can't say I've done that. But when you're not exactly the richest person, but playing at a world class level without getting paid, I can hardly consider that a "nutjob" situation. Bad judgement? Absolutely. And if he ever does it again, Clifford, MJ, and Cho should put the fear of ending his career into him, because that's certainly something within Cho and MJ's power. But now that he's being paid properly (and I'll be honest, I don't think student athletes should be paid like pros, but they should be paid like any college student who has a job, because it's not like college ball players have the chance to work, because of class [when they go, which P.J. DID do], practice, S&C training, games, traveling, and trying to actual rest), I don't see having to "borrow" anything that he can't get legally on his own or from one of his new teammates as a problem for him.

     

    One thing that should be remembered about P.J. is that he didn't declare for the draft last year, even though he would've likely been a lottery lock. Probably top 10, especially considering the stats, you posted QC. He also talked about the fact that he's still taking online classes at UNC and wants a degree. So he's not stupid, he's not lazy, he's not a nutjob...he just got caught doing stupid things everyone (sort of in regards to that last one lol) has done. And he didn't get into a shred of trouble at Texas. Smart guy who's still taking classes, the reaction he had when his name was called was my favorite of the night (aside from the tribute to Isaiah Austin), and he genuinely seems like he is making the most of his second chance. I'm 100% sure MJ kept a close eye on him while he was in Texas, and I know Cho did his due diligence.

     

    Fact is, we got the most versatile scoring SG in the draft. He might end up being the best SG in the draft when it comes down to it. He plays a lot like James Harden on offense, but is a very good defender, unlike Harden. So I'd say any deficiencies he currently lacks in comparison to Harden on offense are made up for on defense.

     

    And yes, I just made the James Harden comp. Nearly identical builds (height, frame, muscle weight, length), athleticism, and skill-set all match up with James Harden. I'm not saying he's going to be the next James Harden, I'm just saying we got our version of him, and I think Harden is his ceiling. Stauskas was my guy in this draft, but seeing him go 8th, I immediately began to nervously clench my teeth every time Silver came to the podium with a pick hoping against hope it wasn't P.J. And we got our guy while kicking Miami in the shins a little bit. I'm super happy about it.

     

    Thanks for that post, as always, QC.

    Favorite pick of this draft.  He is the perfect fit for us.  If he doesn't come out as the starting SG it wont take long for him to take that job from Henderson!  Thats only if we don't go sign a FA like Stephenson.  I have a feeling hes going to blow up in the summer league!  Then in practice hes going to show coach how well he works in our rotation as a starter.  I have been saying from the beginning that you can't have a SG and SF that doesn't strech the floor in your rotation with the way our offense is built.  Hairston/MKG  and Hendo/Taylor is better fit to play with each other IMO.  That streches the floor for Jefferson and still gives you one slasher and a 3 point threat. 

    Absolutely right, QC.  A knucklehead doesn't equal a nutjob, and Peej's mistakes were those of a knucklehead.  

     

    If Peej was a piece of trash, he wouldn't've worked his ass off last summer as part of Roy's dedication test, nor would he have been on the bench pulling on his Heels early last season, waiting for the ass backwards NCAA to make a ruling.

     

    Peej haters, I got two words for ya: (If you watched rasslin' in the late 90s, you know what they are).  

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    InProblematique
    Jun 27 2014 02:23 PM

    Absolutely right, QC.  A knucklehead doesn't equal a nutjob, and Peej's mistakes were those of a knucklehead.  

     

    If Peej was a piece of trash, he wouldn't've worked his ass off last summer as part of Roy's dedication test, nor would he have been on the bench pulling on his Heels early last season, waiting for the ass backwards NCAA to make a ruling.

     

    Peej haters, I got two words for ya: (If you watched rasslin' in the late 90s, you know what they are).  

    That, and how much Roy has stuck by him from the second he was kicked off. Roy might not be everyone's favorite coach (not mine by any stretch), but the fact that he kept in touch with P.J. during the Texas days and all through the draft process showed that Roy really didn't think P.J. was a nutjob who deserved to be banned. RW could have very easily backed off P.J., because it is conceivable that having a "bad egg" on your team and then off your team could hurt recruiting, but it seems like Roy never gave a single thought about giving up on helping Hairston reach his ultimate destination.