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Game Thread: Phoenix Suns at Charlotte Hornets 12/17


Reasons the Hornets should beat the Suns tonight:
  • They've beaten them already this season so they should have some confidence
  • The Suns have lost 6 straight
  • This season has to turn around at some point
Reasons we will lose versus the Suns tonight:
  • Team Chemistry
  • The basketball gods hate us
  • The refs
  • Biz winds up getting only 7 or 8 minute of playing time
  • Nobody guards the 3 point line
  • Not enough playing time for MKG
  • Our guards shoot terribly again

It appears that my lose list is much longer than my win list... Do you guys have anything that will make me feel confident about tonight's game?


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     Do you guys have anything that will make me feel confident about tonight's game?

     

    We beat the Knicks under similar circumstances this year and I believe Alex Len is now the Suns starting center.

    I think your win list is stronger than your lose list, ziggy, even if it's shorter.  Plus my good friend is going and we haven't lost a regular season game we've gone to together since the '12-'13 season...think it's up to 12 straight wins now.

     

    We got this!

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    Felton for Prez
    Dec 17 2014 12:30 PM

    they are going to penetrate and dish us to death.  i'm scared.  

    I wanna have hope but after the last home game (Brooklyn) I just dont have it in me

    http://espn.go.com/n...hx/phoenix-suns   debt chart

    Zeller broken nose is questionable for tonight. Hope to see some burn out of the rookie instead of Max

     Taylor is now allowed to play . But Clifford said he's been out a year and had to prove his self be for he can hit the floor . Sounds like BS to me

     

     

         Got to watch this one on TV  . been sick the last few days . I think Lance has a nice game  .  I  think Lance has something to prove tonight  after all the talk he has been hearing .And we will be ready to play  . Got a good feeling about this one. With all the point controversy going openly for them right now.

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    BrotherDave
    Dec 17 2014 05:45 PM

    Dragic is back tonight. Can't decide if I want to be disappointed by the Hornets or the wolfpack this evening.

    Dragic is back tonight. Can't decide if I want to be disappointed by the Hornets or the wolfpack this evening.


    Hey, Go Vols. ;)

    Says a lot about Lance and how his teammates feel about him when he got hurt, IMO.

    HA! Dell said Cody had a good game in PHX. Hey Dell, I know someone else who had a good game in PHX. Just can't seem to get him mins tonight.

    Pj must have really pissed off cliff. He was speaking so highly of him before the unexcused absence from practice. Since then hes lost all his minutes

    Reasons the Hornets should beat the Suns tonight:

    • They've beaten them already this season so they should have some confidence
    • The Suns have lost 6 straight
    • This season has to turn around at some point
    Reasons we will lose versus the Suns tonight:
    • Team Chemistry
    • The basketball gods hate us
    • The refs
    • Biz winds up getting only 7 or 8 minute of playing time
    • Nobody guards the 3 point line
    • Not enough playing time for MKG
    • Our guards shoot terribly again

    It appears that my lose list is much longer than my win list... Do you guys have anything that will make me feel confident about tonight's game?


    Well ziggy tower spot on with biz minutes. 7 tonight
    Are we trying to dribble the damned clock out with 2+ mins left? WTF?!
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    raginranger
    Dec 17 2014 09:22 PM

    Unbelievable epic fail of a loss.  There is no hope for this team AT ALL.

     

    Were in control of that game for 99% of the clock, then blew it the last couple minutes predictably.

     

    Wasted great efforts by Kemba and Al.  Gary Neal should not handle the ball ever, turnover machine.

    Ok first half ball movement. Second half Al scared to shoot Kemba so hot he won't pass and everyone wants to blame Lance. This is not a team and they want Lance to be the scapegoat.
    Once again. Late game execution dooms this team. What a surprise :0

    In all seriousness come the fuck on. Again? And the same damn way. Dribble the air out the ball till they throw up a brick... or turn it over. So many times who does this fall on???? The coach? Players? O well fuck it. Got philly up next.
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    cltblkhscoach
    Dec 17 2014 09:26 PM
    Why do you not take the timeout down three, but then take it down by five after a horrible possession? I just don't get it man....
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    Dwight122017
    Dec 17 2014 09:28 PM

    I'm absolutely done with Clifford, FIRE HIM or this team will never play up to its potential.  Gary Neal and Al can only play in the first half.  Other than that they are garbage.  Kemba tries to be a hero and puts us in these end of game situations, how about play roberts more than 8 minutes.  

     

    I want to slam cliffords head into a wall.

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    CarolinaBlue23
    Dec 17 2014 09:31 PM

    This is freakin' ridiculous. This team has given up so many leads & lost they expect it at this point. Coach Clifford is quick to point a finger at everyone but himself. 

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    Dwight122017
    Dec 17 2014 09:32 PM

    Clifford has to be the worst in-game manager in the NBA, every team makes adjustments and we don't react.  He's stubborn  and his rotations are shit.  When Phoenix goes to 3 guards why not go to Kemba, Roberts, Lance, MKG or Zeller and Biz.  They absolutely owned us after the 6 min mark in the second

    I was against firing him but its repeatedly the same damn problems. Kemba apparently looked at cliff for a play and Clifford just says "go". I mean what in the actual fuck. He constantly just looks at kemba to bail the team out. Where was this expanded play calling he was talking about introducing at the end of last year?? Hell where is the stuff from last year!!!???

    Its time to let mark price run the show......why not gamble on it.......

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    BrotherDave
    Dec 17 2014 09:37 PM

    Way to get those numbers, big al.  Top three center in the game.

     

    At least Kemba is shooting better. If our halfcourt offense wasn't as predictable as a teenager pounding everclear we would've won.

    I hate to pile on but Clifford really got out coached tonight, again.

     

    Play right into their hands by trying to match small, except our players aren't as good.

     

    Start running a zone that just hemorrhages points and gets them hot from 3.

     

    Weird rotations and line-ups that don't make sense.

     

    Run zero plays down the stretch.

     

    Don't take a timeout when we need it the most or get our best shooters in when we needed a 3.

     

    Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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    BrotherDave
    Dec 17 2014 09:49 PM

    Zeller was decent too, then disappeared for Cliff's # spacing lineup. How many games has playing Marvin down the stretch won?





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