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Game Thread 47: Charlotte Hornets / Portland Trail Blazers 1/29 -- MKG is good to go!


Charlotte Hornets (22-24) at Portland Trail Blazers (21-26)
Friday, January 29, 2016, 10:00pm ET
Moda Center, Portland, OR


Referees #23 Jason Phillips | #55 Bill Kennedy | #73 Tre Maddox

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At The Hive: That's right, MKG upgraded to Questionable
​Blazer's Edge: Is the Trail Blazers' ball movement stagnating?
Comcast Sportsnet: Roundtable: How should Blazer fans receive Nic Batum?
Rip City Project: Where is Noah Vonleh's ceiling?
Today's Fastbreak: Troy Daniels is rising to the occasion
Oregon Live: Video: Nicolas Batum unsure of how Rip City will welcome him back
​At The Hive: Roundtable: Should the Hornets make a trade?
CBS Sports: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist's return to Hornets couldn't come soon enough, with video
​Hoops Habit: Troy Daniels shoots his way into the rotation
A The Hive: Hornets at Trail Blazers: preview
Swarm & Sting: Hornets face off against Trail Blazers in Nic Batum's return to Portland
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Oregon Live: Blazers vs Hornets: projected lineups, game preview
TrailBlazers: Homestand continues as Batum returns to Rip City
Blazers Edge: How are Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum coming along defensively?
Blazers Edge: Trailblazers vs Hornets preview
​Rip City Project: What does the future hold for Trail Blazers' power forward Meyers Leonard?
At The Hive: Searching for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist's partner on the wing
The Morning Call: 5 reasons why C.J. McCollum has become an NBA star
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Wednesday's Game: Hornets 73, Jazz 102

Last Meeting with Portland: Trail Blazers 94, Hornets 106
November 15, 2015 at Time Warner Cable Arena – Friday marks the second and final regular season matchup between the Trail Blazers and Hornets in 2015-16. Charlotte defeated Portland, 106-94, earlier this season at home. Former Trail Blazer Nicolas Batum scored 33 points on 11-of-19 shooting (5-10 3-PT). Despite the loss in Charlotte earlier this season, Portland is 10-3 over its past 13 games against the Hornets. The Trail Blazers have won seven consecutive home games against the Hornets (2008-09 to 2014-15). A win for Charlotte would mark its first season sweep over Portland since 2007-08. The Hornets haven’t won consecutive games against the Trail Blazers at any point since their season sweep in 2007-08. Damian Lillard scored 23 points against Charlotte on Nov. 15, and has now scored at least 20 points in each of his seven career games against the Hornets. The Trail Blazers outscored the Hornets by 14 points in the second half of their 106-94 loss. Lillard led Portland with 25.5 points on 20-of-38 shooting (9-16 3-PT) in two games against the Hornets last season. The Trail Blazers are fifth in the NBA with 45.9 rebounds per game, while the Hornets are tied for 12th with 43.6 boards per contest. Trail Blazers forward Noah Vonleh (2014) and guard Gerald Henderson (2009-15) both played for Charlotte last season. Hornets forward Nicolas Batum spent his first seven NBA seasons with Portland, averaging 11.2 points, 5.1 rebounds and 3.0 assists. Batum ranks third in Trail Blazers franchise history with 751 three-point field goals.

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  • 110 Comments

    It would suck if Batum gets the max.  It is best to sign the extension. 

     

    I laughed so hard after Utah whipped our butts by 29 when I read all the lame excuses made by some of you on here, now we get whipped by another losing team by 19, both games we had a day off prior too, just stop making your sorry excuses you just look like idiots. I've got news for you:

     

    FACT: We are not very good, AGAIN!

    To be fair, there are a lot of injuries.  When everyone is healthy it'd be different.  They probably need some time for chemistry too. 

    GIVE THE MAX TO BATUM!!  :confused:  Playing hurt or not he's been up and down all season and even with all his genius BBIQ and ball movement skills he turns it over way too much. On top of that he hasn't shown killer instinct or want to take the big shot (or ability). I hope he'll turn it on and prove me wrong but I ain't seeing it guys... just not seeing a max player. He pretty much got outplayed by the "young goof" we traded to get him.

     

    If we're just too injured to make a push I pray they don't run Kemba and MKG to death. Not sure if we should stay with the process or call it and make some moves for the future but they have to make a solid decision on this and soon or the best we'll see is more of the treadmill.

     

    yeah, if we are certain that he is getting the max this summer, i would strongly urge charlotte to look at cashing him in before the deadline this year. i don't think he is worth the max with how inconsistent he is. i like him as a player (alot) just not a max player.

    Sorry for kidnapping this game thread :)

     

    I'm not sure what to think about Batum... 

    I didn't follow him when he still played for Portland so my judgement is solely based on his performance as a Hornet and his games for the French national team.

    The game against Portland seems to proof my suspicion about him being a forward not a SG.

    It's true, he has a great court vision and is a good passer and team guy but for myself I always expect an immediate turnover when I see him dribble the ball in the back court. Don't know how you guy's think about it.

    His strength is more being a passer from the wing / elbow with short dribbles against wing players. I saw the Eurobasket Championship where he shared the court with Diaw, Parker (PG) Evan Fournier (SG position) and another guy I haven't heard of before and can't remember now. They used Fournier as their primary scoring option with Parker covering the passing angles from the back court and Batum switching left and right on the wing. Together they made Fournier looking like an unstoppable monster.

    His shooting is streaky that's also true but I believe there is a pattern to this. I could be dead wrong and can't file any statistics about what I'm going to say now.

    Datum struggles to create his own shot except of the typical fade away mid range jump shot and he's not a good spot up / catch and shoot guy either. At season start he looked good shooting straight up from screens but tough screen setting is something the Hornets game misses right now.

     

    So in general Nic Batum is a good and legit NBA player who might even be worth a max. contract depending on what teams are willing to pay for a "point forward".

    The only question is is he the player the Hornets need?

     

    Edit note: fixed the smily and added this note :)

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    I'd pay Batum what the market will bear. He's not only hurt at the moment, but also asked to do things out of position and out if his comfort zone. The team has exactly 0 legit facilitators at the 1 or 2. Fixing that immediately fixes 90% of the perceived problems with Nic.

    I'd pay Batum what the market will bear. He's not only hurt at the moment, but also asked to do things out of position and out if his comfort zone. The team has exactly 0 legit facilitators at the 1 or 2. Fixing that immediately fixes 90% of the perceived problems with Nic.


    How do u fix it though? The 1 spot is held down by kemba and I can't imagine a scenario where they move him. And cliff has already stated he wanted to run batum at the 2 and mkg at the 3. Sometimes at the 4.
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    GeraldWallaceMVP
    Jan 30 2016 09:25 AM
    Mkg was great

    How do u fix it though? The 1 spot is held down by kemba and I can't imagine a scenario where they move him. And cliff has already stated he wanted to run batum at the 2 and mkg at the 3. Sometimes at the 4.


    Clifford has no choice but to work with what he's given. Nic getting the max isn't even the real question though. Cho could sign the most gifted shooters and passers in the league and still look average so long as team ignores winning habits.
    Sans Nic and Spencer, Charlotte had 5 assists last night in a game with 200 points. Let that sink in.
    Well shoot first Point Guards aren't the exception anymore so I'm good with Kemba / Lin at the 1 as long as we have another facilitator out there. The wings are the place to get the ball to then.
    That's what the Warriors do with Draymond Green. I'd be willing to try Nic and MKG as forwards on the floor.
    I know I already said it earlier but the biggest hole with our current roster is the SG spot. So if we don't want to use Batum in the way he's best we should trade him for a true SG.

    Personally I would rather keep him as a forward and find a suiting SG next to our Point Guards.
    Please don't ask whom I would trade therefore as I'm a total homer and don't want to send someone of the Hornets family away :)
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    Scottley Crue
    Jan 30 2016 10:13 AM
    The big trend I see with this team is their habit of becoming highly unorganized on both sides of the ball, which causes them to panic. That panic induces the offense to consist of four guys standing around watching one guy try to go 1 on 5. It compounds itself because the standing around comes over to the defensive end, either by allowing run outs or not handling pnr's well.

    But it all comes back to organization and purpose. This team can quickly become panicked and abandon all hope of organization and purpose in hopes of making up a multi-possession deficit in one trip on offense. This is where I wish there was a leader on the floor to pull everyone aside, calm them down, organize things and remind them of how to get things done. Along with the things Buckets has said, I ink this would be of tremendous value.
    Seeing MKG on the floor was great! I really love the effort and energy he brings on both ends.

    I think we lack a guy that says be in your position. I think Batum and Lin can facilitate great, under the right conditions if guys move and are in certain places the ball goes to them. They are just TO prone. But both are banged up. Batum's play can't be judged until his toe is better. That was a shell of Batum out there last night and in the previous game as well. But he looked worse last night.

     

    3Q King's game showed we can make assists when we play the right way. Guys like Daniels and Lamb shouldn't try to create their own shots much either. Daniels ever and Lamb can under the right circumstances, but gets tripped up when he tries to do it too much.

     

    We give up too much outside and inside and haven't found the solution to it.

    Somebody in the front office thought Batum would fit in as a facilitator. They were wrong and here we are.

    I think we lack a guy that says be in your position. I think Batum and Lin can facilitate great, under the right conditions if guys move and are in certain places the ball goes to them. They are just TO prone. But both are banged up. Batum's play can't be judged until his toe is better. That was a shell of Batum out there last night and in the previous game as well. But he looked worse last night.

    3Q King's game showed we can make assists when we play the right way. Guys like Daniels and Lamb shouldn't try to create their own shots much either. Daniels ever and Lamb can under the right circumstances, but gets tripped up when he tries to do it too much.

    We give up too much outside and inside and haven't found the solution to it.


    I agree our off ball movement is terrible. I thought we turned a magical corner versus the Kings but I guess we just took 4 right turns. That game was a fluke. Not the ability that was displayed in that game but the way we played offensively.

    I definitely have my doubts that Batum is the 2 guard that we need. Aside from November, he really hasn't had a good month of shooting this year. In December he shot 31.3% from 3 and 42% from the field, and this month he has shot 28.3% from 3 and 31.9% from the field. We need better shooting from Batum for this team to get over the hump and become a playoff team. 

    It would suck if Batum gets the max.  It is best to sign the extension. 

     

    To be fair, there are a lot of injuries.  When everyone is healthy it'd be different.  They probably need some time for chemistry too. 

     

     

    Same old same old

    Clifford has no choice but to work with what he's given. Nic getting the max isn't even the real question though. Cho could sign the most gifted shooters and passers in the league and still look average so long as team ignores winning habits.

     

     

    Cho is well below average, we are talking about a league where more than half of the teams (16 of 30) make the freaking playoffs lol

    Somebody in the front office thought Batum would fit in as a facilitator. They were wrong and here we are.

     

     

    Right, he is incredibly sloppy with his play and inconsistent as hell

    I'd pay Batum what the market will bear. He's not only hurt at the moment, but also asked to do things out of position and out if his comfort zone. The team has exactly 0 legit facilitators at the 1 or 2. Fixing that immediately fixes 90% of the perceived problems with Nic.

     

     

     

    So is Batum a facilitator or not? He's not taking MKG's spot at SF so he should do some of that at SG with less turnovers than he's been having all season (his injuries or others aside). Also he has yet to show the instinct/desire to take a big shot. How many times I've seen him get the ball with the shot clock getting low and he still passes out of a shot or waits till he has to take the shot and clank. He has shown with inconsistency (which we were warned about from Portland fans) the things you like about the guy but its inconsistent even with the lack of injury excuses or blaming it on the rest of the team.

    Everybody but Mike, Psycho and Roberts just looked flat as hell.  I know nobody wants to hear it but they are human, and I think the heavy minutes due to OT games and injuries, as well as the travel is really taking its toll.  I mean, I think Kemba's fumes are running on fumes at this point.

     

    Yes, Nic was bad, but PJ was horrific.  Hopefully he keeps clean (or at least is smart enough not to get caught) and has a good career in Europe because he has no future in the NBA, or with the Hornets at least...and not many teams are ever eager to pick up our cast-offs.  

    Final

    Charlotte Hornets 91, Portland Trail Blazers 109 

     

    CHA   25  20  24  22    91

    POR   21  29  33  26  109

     

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    Everybody but Mike, Psycho and Roberts just looked flat as hell.  I know nobody wants to hear it but they are human, and I think the heavy minutes due to OT games and injuries, as well as the travel is really taking its toll.  I mean, I think Kemba's fumes are running on fumes at this point.

     

    Yes, Nic was bad, but PJ was horrific.  Hopefully he keeps clean (or at least is smart enough not to get caught) and has a good career in Europe because he has no future in the NBA, or with the Hornets at least...and not many teams are ever eager to pick up our cast-offs.  

     

     

    After the long all-star break we have 5 straight road games, if we are still losing then what will the excuse be? It seems there is always an excuse or excuses made, at what point "Exactly" will we truly need to actually start winning more games than we lose?

    Same old same old

     

    Ya...but Lin/Lamb/MKG(Batum)/Cody/Al

     

    That's a pretty good team right there. 

     

    The only important guy not injured is Kemba, but he is a lot of times detrimental to the team's success. 

    Ya...but Lin/Lamb/MKG(Batum)/Cody/Al

     

    That's a pretty good team right there. 

     

    The only important guy not injured is Kemba, but he is a lot of times detrimental to the team's success. 

    Maybe too TO prone except for MKG. I like Batum and Lin but with guys that are more comfortable dribbling the ball. But yes, these are all big role players on the team. Batum and Lin seem pretty crucial to me, Al is crucial in a way but he was being altered in his usage. Lamb is an important scorer as he's pretty versatile in how he can score and he can create some. Cody is Batum's favorite target and plays a good 2-man game with him and the closest thing to an offensive rebounder outside of Psycho T we have.

     

    I think the guys were worn down. Batum's minutes wore on him. Lin's 50 minute game resulted in his ankle getting sore and then him turning it enough to take him now out of X amount of games. Kemba even is worn down but seems pretty durable this season.

     

    The team is better  with those guys back for sure. Each guy plays a pretty large role on the team. But whoever is on the court, execute offensively and don't become disorganized. Don't become disorganized on defense.





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