Jump to content

  •  
- - - - -

Miles Plumlee - Spencer Hawes / Roy Hibbert Trade Discussion


I can see it, I guess - Plumlee will do a better job of doing Cody Zeller things than any of the other candidates to play center that are/were on the roster, so you don't have to switch up your play style to accomodate a backup big - you can just kind of rotate the two in the same offense. It's a healthy contract he's on, but I didn't expect Charlotte to have significant cap space this summer anyway and with limited trade assets to work with taking on a long-term deal is likely the cost of doing business. Given the much larger cap exceptions that will be in play under the new CBA there's something to be said for working over the cap instead of killing yourself to free up one big salary slot that may not be taken by anyone.


  • 121 Comments

    Inb4 Okafor to Hornets

     

     

    Cause we don't get dunked on enough? 

    Hmmmm...my initial reaction was getting another mobile PnR C to maximize Nic's skill set and drag help away from Kemba. I'd consider Cody a spacer that way.


    Good thought, but at 12 mil per year for 4, you better be sure he can do it. He is an athlete but is not a basketball player. Cody is
    Buckets, are you going to retire your avatar? I'll take a wait and see approach. All the armchair GMs want to make blockbuster trades. Just like fantasy, most fantasy offers and one sided and crap. Obviously we need help in every way imaginable. Hopefully Miles and Tobey can help us out.

    Here's 2015-16 PnR Roller PPP. Light volume but Plumlee led the league for players with > 50 possessions. Cody BTW was 10th

     

    This season Plumlee is @ 1.20 PPP but again, light volume.

     

     

    dd47scm.png?1

    Buckets, are you going to retire your avatar? I'll take a wait and see approach.

     

    Just starting to sink in.

    Without much 2017 cap space left I'm gonna assume this indicates CHA is working on a significant deadline move. 

    Without much 2017 cap space left I'm gonna assume this indicates CHA is working on a significant deadline move.


    But with what assets? What I mean is show me how Cho lands hayward!
    Photo
    GeraldWallaceMVP
    Feb 02 2017 03:34 PM
    This is one of those times I really need founding Hornet to pop in and reassure us that this is part of a bigger picture

    I can see it, I guess - Plumlee will do a better job of doing Cody Zeller things than any of the other candidates to play center that are/were on the roster, so you don't have to switch up your play style to accomodate a backup big - you can just kind of rotate the two in the same offense. It's a healthy contract he's on, but I didn't expect Charlotte to have significant cap space this summer anyway and with limited trade assets to work with taking on a long-term deal is likely the cost of doing business. Given the much larger cap exceptions that will be in play under the new CBA there's something to be said for working over the cap instead of killing yourself to free up one big salary slot that may not be taken by anyone.

     

    But with what assets? What I mean is show me how Cho lands hayward!

     

    2 days off, well before the trade deadline, and cap ramifications feel curious. Whatever the case I'd expect it sooner rather than later. Can't slow drip trades and think the locker room will be fine.

    Photo
    GeraldWallaceMVP
    Feb 02 2017 03:43 PM
    Other then Plumee deal. What are the Odds we come in with the same team against Utah?
    Photo
    cltblkhscoach
    Feb 02 2017 03:45 PM
    Trade call is this afternoon but I doubt Plumlee will be able to play significant minutes so soon in Utah
    Photo
    GeraldWallaceMVP
    Feb 02 2017 03:47 PM

    Trade call is this afternoon but I doubt Plumlee will be able to play significant minutes so soon in Utah


    I ment other then the Plumlee trade do yall think anything else will occur
    Hopefully Cody can play Saturday, if not then it will certainly be an interesting rotation!
    At least Plumlee is smart and tough. Can score inside and will be coached up. Not quick; but more more mobile than Hibbert or Hawes. All we lose is Hawes 3P shooting.

    I can see it, I guess - Plumlee will do a better job of doing Cody Zeller things than any of the other candidates to play center that are/were on the roster, so you don't have to switch up your play style to accomodate a backup big - you can just kind of rotate the two in the same offense. It's a healthy contract he's on, but I didn't expect Charlotte to have significant cap space this summer anyway and with limited trade assets to work with taking on a long-term deal is likely the cost of doing business. Given the much larger cap exceptions that will be in play under the new CBA there's something to be said for working over the cap instead of killing yourself to free up one big salary slot that may not be taken by anyone.

     

     

    Yeah this does qualify us for the biggest MLE available, but that's only the difference in 3 mil, which is what Plumlees contract adds.    So it basically puts us over the cap, and combines our old MLE and cap space into one larger MLE ( I think 2.6 MLE is now a 5.8 MLE)

    2 days off, well before the trade deadline, and cap ramifications feel curious. Whatever the case I'd expect it sooner rather than later. Can't slow drip trades and think the locker room will be fine.


    Maybe he just leaves mkg, sessions, lamb and a 2017 pick swap in Utah and leave with hayward and Burks?
    Oh wait I was thinking Mason Plumlee. Never mind. At least Hibbert is gone.

    Maybe he just leaves mkg, sessions, lamb and a 2017 pick swap in Utah and leave with hayward and Burks?

     

    Ha I'm with the Hornets FO in not moving MKG. If anything it's banking on MKG as a part-time PF and Kaminsky a part-time 5....assuming he's not moved. So I'd expect targeting a sturdy wing or a 3/4.

     

    Major wild card being Zeller on the table if Charlotte believes Plumlee *reasonably* duplicates Cody. Which frees up the more valuable asset to land a 4/5 like Gibson and another wing.

    Photo
    cltblkhscoach
    Feb 02 2017 03:59 PM
    Mike Tobey on a 10 day at least knows the system and could spell in the middle for a few minutes. Cody would help a lot against Gobert too. If not, small ball with a couple of shooters will be in full effect lol

    Ha I'm with the Hornets FO in not moving MKG. If anything it's banking on MKG as a part-time PF and Kaminsky a part-time 5....assuming he's not moved. So I'd expect targeting a sturdy wing or a 3/4.

     

    Major wild card being Zeller on the table if Charlotte believes Plumlee *reasonably* duplicates Cody. Which frees up the more valuable asset to land a 4/5 like Gibson and another wing.

     

    as a major cody doubter the past few years, he has really been one of my favorites this year. i love how his game and niche on the team is rounding out. i would be fairly upset if he is moved for a non-significant piece.

    Photo
    GOBOBCATS24
    Feb 02 2017 04:13 PM
    Guys, I have been trying to think of a positive aspect to this trade, but theres no ifs, ands, or asses about it. This was a bad trade. You don't take on salary to "set up" for another deal. Essentially this trade hurt our flexibilty not only this season, but for 3 seasons after this.

    I'm no capologist, but I can tell you that in this instance we got shafted
    Photo
    GeraldWallaceMVP
    Feb 02 2017 04:17 PM
    I like the move even if nothing comes of it. Just liked the fact we shook the team up.
    Photo
    GOBOBCATS24
    Feb 02 2017 04:24 PM

    I like the move even if nothing comes of it. Just liked the fact we shook the team up.


    A trade just to trade is not a positive thing. We got a guy the bucks were dying to get rid of in exchange for the tiny amount of cap space we had left. Borderline backup center owed $40 million.

    Never a good thing

    Guys, I have been trying to think of a positive aspect to this trade, but theres not ifs, ands, or asses about it. This was a bad trade. You don't take on salary to "set up" for another deal. Essentially this trade hurt our flexibilty not only this season, but for 3 seasons after this.

    I'm no capologist, but I can tell you that in this instance we got shafted

     

    unless plumlee is better than both hibbert and hawes by a wide margin and cho correctly identified another great blah trade at the time that turned into a really good piece.

     

    just trying to stay positive here.