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3 Options for Hornets Heading into the Draft at #9


Barring MJ cashing in his chip from the Anthony Davis fail, and Charlotte jumping into the top 3, I think the Hornets have 3 options at #9.

1 - Trade the #9 plus other assets to move up and select D'Angelo Russell.

Of the draft eligible players, I think Russell is one of a couple of players in this class that shows superstar talent. This Hornets team has never had a truely elite franchise star that other teams would love to have. The only previous names of the Bobcats/Hornets that come to mind are All-Stars, not superstars would be Okafor, Richardson, Wallace, and Jackson. Russell is not a sure thing, but his IQ and drive are insanely on par with his ball skills and production. A backcourt of Kemba/Russell or Russell/Kemba would be a dangerous duo for the future in Charlotte. The kid has "it" and I think, depending on the haul that we give up, would be an amazing add. It might cost us Kemba, which would be tough to do on my part, but this franchise has been on a hamster wheel of mediocre-at-best players since inception. Watching guys like Steph Curry and Damon Lillard ball out, makes me want Russell very bad.

2 - Trade the #9 plus other assets to move up for Mario Hezonja.

This scenario would cost the Hornets less in assets, as I think Hezonja's earliest landing spot would be at #5, but more than likely at #6. Moving from 9-to-6 would be more palatable I think from what we would have to give up, and would give the Hornets another player in this draft that has superstar potential. Everything about Hezonja's game is what the Hornets need, and the deficiencies in his game can be compensated with the defense that MKG brings on the wing. Hezonja just turned 20 in February, so he is a player that this team would grow around. His lethal stroke from deep, as well as his jumper anywhere around the perimeter is nasty. He is strong enough to drive and finish at the rim, and his athleticism is phenomenal. Adding a confident alpha to the young core would be a huge get for this franchise, and finally give us the scorer we've been dying for.

3 - Trade the #9 pilus other assets for a sharp-shooting young SG to add to the core.

I don't know who is out there that fits this mold for us, nor what else we would have to add to make it happen, but staying at 9 should not be an option. This team has already swung on guys like MKG, Zeller, and Vonleh in the top-10 with the patience to wait on their potential. This franchise is a big melting pot of youth with potential, combined with players entering their prime. To add a fourth player with potential such as Oubre/Kaminsky/Dekker/Booker would be silly. Not sure what the trade market is right now, but Charlotte needs players capable of blending with the young core, and can elevate the team to the next level.

Bottom line of this post is that Charlotte cannot afford to draft at #9 the way the board is currently setting up. I think Hezonja made the most sense at #9, but I see his stock moving up to the 5-7 range by draft night. Some combination of the following should go in the first 7 picks:

Towns - Okafor - Russell - Mudiay - Winslow - Hezonja - Johnson

That leaves the awful choice of a euro-PF in Porzingis, a Bizmack-clone in WCS or a reach for Oubre/Kaminsky. Yuck!

I really think the pressure is on Cho and MJ to do something big this draft year. The rebrand helped soften the horrible product that was on the court in 2015, and the roster has way too many question marks now, than it did at this point last year.

Obviously, I would love for the Hornets to defy the odds *cough* rig the lottery *cough* and move into the top-3. I'm not greedy, and don't need the #1 overall.....I'd be happy moving to #3. Outside of that happening, I honestly think one of these other 3 scenarios have to happen. Staying pat at #9 and taking BPA/value, should not be an option this year.


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    GeraldWallaceMVP
    Apr 28 2015 09:37 AM

    i like option 1 and 3

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    cltblkhscoach
    Apr 28 2015 09:46 AM

    Option 3 for me, Option 1 would have to depend on what's going out besides the #9 pick

    All three options are fine with me.

    Don't know who this SG should be though. In 2007 we traded the #8 pick for a peaking J- Rich on a 4 year remaining contract.

    I don't see any player that would fit such a price.

    But hey, Cho moved up from #19 to #7. But we do not have Cap. Jack calibre asset.

    This feels too much like drafting for need and that's how you get in trouble.   We have no idea how the draft will unfold.  And while I agree that options 1-3 would be fine, I'd be just as happy to draft the best player available at 9 and move along.  I think the smart GM lets the draft come to him rather than go lock in on a single player/position.    And while Deangelo Russell is really high on my personal list of must-haves... he could 100% be a bust.  So then you've lost multiple assets to whif on a player in the draft rather than lose nothing to stay at 9 and draft a contributor.      We need to start viewing the draft the way the long term great teams use it.. as a source of renewable talent you can stash if need be rather than a get rich quick scheme.   

     

    As far as trading for a player, it just depends on the player/contract.   I really don't want to invest any long term money in anyone for next season.  The whole landscape of the NBA changes starting in the 2016-2017 season, lets just see this current experiment through and see what we have when the dust settles and the money gets bigger.   Add our pick on a reasonable rookie contract and hope he pans out as a long term option.  

     

    No option should be ruled out.   

    When I think of Option 3 and a young SG, I think of Stephenson. We thought he would be that young SG that would come in and gell with the team. hmmmm

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    BrotherDave
    Apr 28 2015 07:29 PM

    Option 2 please.  Just don't give up too much for him.

    All three options are fine with me.

    Don't know who this SG should be though. In 2007 we traded the #8 pick for a peaking J- Rich on a 4 year remaining contract.

    I don't see any player that would fit such a price.

    But hey, Cho moved up from #19 to #7. But we do not have Cap. Jack calibre asset.

     

     

    All three options are fine with me.

    Don't know who this SG should be though. In 2007 we traded the #8 pick for a peaking J- Rich on a 4 year remaining contract.

    I don't see any player that would fit such a price.

    But hey, Cho moved up from #19 to #7. But we do not have Cap. Jack calibre asset.

     

    Yes, that was a JRich was a perfect timed for us, our first year w/ full cap & no contracts to send to GS.  GS needed to clear SG JRich contract for money for SG Ellis.

     

    Recent move ups to top 10.  

     

    2013 

     

    Barring MJ cashing in his chip from the Anthony Davis fail, and Charlotte jumping into the top 3, I think the Hornets have 3 options at #9.

     

    1 - Trade the #9 plus other assets to move up and select D'Angelo Russell.

     

    Of the draft eligible players, I think Russell is one of a couple of players in this class that shows superstar talent. This Hornets team has never had a truely elite franchise star that other teams would love to have. The only previous names of the Bobcats/Hornets that come to mind are All-Stars, not superstars would be Okafor, Richardson, Wallace, and Jackson. Russell is not a sure thing, but his IQ and drive are insanely on par with his ball skills and production. A backcourt of Kemba/Russell or Russell/Kemba would be a dangerous duo for the future in Charlotte. The kid has "it" and I think, depending on the haul that we give up, would be an amazing add. It might cost us Kemba, which would be tough to do on my part, but this franchise has been on a hamster wheel of mediocre-at-best players since inception. Watching guys like Steph Curry and Damon Lillard ball out, makes me want Russell very bad.

     

    2 - Trade the #9 plus other assets to move up for Mario Hezonja.

     

    This scenario would cost the Hornets less in assets, as I think Hezonja's earliest landing spot would be at #5, but more than likely at #6. Moving from 9-to-6 would be more palatable I think from what we would have to give up, and would give the Hornets another player in this draft that has superstar potential. Everything about Hezonja's game is what the Hornets need, and the deficiencies in his game can be compensated with the defense that MKG brings on the wing.  Hezonja just turned 20 in February, so he is a player that this team would grow around. His lethal stroke from deep, as well as his jumper anywhere around the perimeter is nasty. He is strong enough to drive and finish at the rim, and his athleticism is phenomenal. Adding a confident alpha to the young core would be a huge get for this franchise, and finally give us the scorer we've been dying for.

     

    3 - Trade the #9 pilus other assets for a sharp-shooting young SG to add to the core.

     

    I don't know who is out there that fits this mold for us, nor what else we would have to add to make it happen, but staying at 9 should not be an option. This team has already swung on guys like MKG, Zeller, and Vonleh in the top-10 with the patience to wait on their potential. This franchise is a big melting pot of youth with potential, combined with players entering their prime. To add a fourth player with potential such as Oubre/Kaminsky/Dekker/Booker would be silly. Not sure what the trade market is right now, but Charlotte needs players capable of blending with the young core, and can elevate the team to the next level. 

     

    Bottom line of this post is that Charlotte cannot afford to draft at #9 the way the board is currently setting up. I think Hezonja made the most sense at #9, but I see his stock moving up to the 5-7 range by draft night. Some combination of the following should go in the first 7 picks:

     

    Towns - Okafor - Russell - Mudiay - Winslow - Hezonja - Johnson

     

    That leaves the awful choice of a euro-PF in Porzingis, a Bizmack-clone in WCS or a reach for Oubre/Kaminsky.  Yuck!

     

    I really think the pressure is on Cho and MJ to do something big this draft year. The rebrand helped soften the horrible product that was on the court in 2015, and the roster has way too many question marks now, than it did at this point last year. 

     

    Obviously, I would love for the Hornets to defy the odds *cough* rig the lottery *cough* and move into the top-3. I'm not greedy, and don't need the #1 overall.....I'd be happy moving to #3.  Outside of that happening, I honestly think one of these other 3 scenarios have to happen. Staying pat at #9 and taking BPA/value, should not be an option this year.

     

     

    Don't see team wanting too move out of the top 4.  Teams won't likely to trade down out of the top 9 unless a team puts up a lot so we could be in a good position.  A team might not want him Hezonja as much as our FO does and pick him and get some really good value plus whoever's left from Winslow/Johnson/WCS/Pozingis at #9.  Moving up into the top 10 to #9 & #10 cost teams another 1rst & 2nd last year...should expect moving up in top 10 to cost more.  Maybe at the most something like a couple protected firsts to move up to Orlando or a first and Vonleh for Harkless?  Or Kings seems not to like Staukus much...a 1rst & Vonleh for Staukus to move up.

    I'd choose option 2 or 3.

    I love option 1, but the it'll cost too much.

    I don't think option 2 will be too pricy and Hezonja is exactly what we need ... pro experienced shooter with the right mentally who can guard either wing.

    Similarly option 3 appeals if it's the right guy at the right cost.
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    Polar Hornet
    Apr 29 2015 06:42 PM

    Yeah, #2 seems the most likely of the 3, and the one that I would prefer.

     

    I fear that in order to get near the top to get Russell, we would have to include Kemba in the package, thus only replacing him at PG. Still have a gaping hole for a true shooter at the 2, and not enough money to find one in FA. 

     

    I agree that the third option would be ideal, but begs the question of "who" would we acquire in a trade.

     

    In option 2, we get our version of Gordon Hayward/Klay Thompson and keep Kemba, MKG, and Vonleh as the core. I would think our 1st + Cody (maybe throw in a 2nd) could get us up 3 spots to 6, though we might have to get to 5. 

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    High Upside
    Apr 29 2015 06:52 PM

    4.) Trade the pick to the Heat for a couple of second rounders, and promptly trade the second rounders for cash considerations.

    option 4:

    plus pick swap with the blazers

     

    http://espn.go.com/n...tradeId=k6fzyzx  

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    QC Thundercats
    Apr 30 2015 10:13 AM

    4.) Trade the pick to the Heat for a couple of second rounders, and promptly trade the second rounders for cash considerations.


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    arburton300
    May 21 2015 10:02 PM

    From what I've seen from Mario Hezonja I like. I mean I really like.He has the potienial to be the next star in the league. We need scoring from the wing and this guy can score and can bring excitement to the Hive. Do what it takes to get this kid.

    Saw this trade proposed

    Something of a 3 team deal with Boston, NY

    We trade Lance and 9, get 16, Olynyk and Calderon. Thoughts?
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    @JPlowright_NBA
    May 22 2015 03:27 AM

    Saw this trade proposed

    Something of a 3 team deal with Boston, NY

    We trade Lance and 9, get 16, Olynyk and Calderon. Thoughts?

     

    Not a fan, it isn't awful but I don't think it particularly helps us either.

    Moving up is great but it comes at a cost which is why virtually nobody ever moves up.  The concept of moving up to 4-6 and grabbing a guy who can come right in and help us is fine and dandy until the bill comes due because anybody willing to trade back from that range won't want anybody on our roster other than MKG to do so.  The idea that we can move Cody or Vonleh or anybody else, along with 9, for a top 5 pick in a pretty good draft is mistaken.  I'm also pretty sure giving up future firsts isn't going to cut it either so unelss we are all willing to wave good-bye to MKG for the opportunity to draft one of these guys then we're really just wasting our time.  

     

    Now if we end up wanting to move to maybe 7-8 if the right guy is there then maybe, but I really don't think there will be anybody at that range that I'm willing to give up one of our current guys to get. 

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    @JPlowright_NBA
    May 22 2015 06:59 AM

    Moving up is great but it comes at a cost which is why virtually nobody ever moves up.  The concept of moving up to 4-6 and grabbing a guy who can come right in and help us is fine and dandy until the bill comes due because anybody willing to trade back from that range won't want anybody on our roster other than MKG to do so.  The idea that we can move Cody or Vonleh or anybody else, along with 9, for a top 5 pick in a pretty good draft is mistaken.  I'm also pretty sure giving up future firsts isn't going to cut it either so unelss we are all willing to wave good-bye to MKG for the opportunity to draft one of these guys then we're really just wasting our time.  

     

    Now if we end up wanting to move to maybe 7-8 if the right guy is there then maybe, but I really don't think there will be anybody at that range that I'm willing to give up one of our current guys to get. 

     

    Moving up to 4-6 would be pretty pointless IMO, 4 might be worth it, but the rest of the guys outside of Mundiay/Russel/Towns/Oak are all similar to those available at 9 IMO. 

     

    What normally happens on draft night is you have trades in place IF a certain player is available, so EG we have a trade in place with NY if Russell falls to #4 (Unlikely)

    Moving up to 4-6 would be pretty pointless IMO, 4 might be worth it, but the rest of the guys outside of Mundiay/Russel/Towns/Oak are all similar to those available at 9 IMO. 

     

     

    unless you think mario or the euro are the next big thing

    option 4:

    plus pick swap with the blazers

     

    http://espn.go.com/n...tradeId=k6fzyzx  

     

     

    In a nanosecond. 

    In a nanosecond.

    yup

    I still like Kemba + 9 for Player X and 4. 

     

    Give me Mudiay, MKG, and Vonleh/Zeller as our core and I'll take it EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. (If Lance returned to form it would just be icing on the cake.) 

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    QC Thundercats
    May 22 2015 12:54 PM

    I still like Kemba + 9 for Player X and 4. 

     

    Give me Mudiay, MKG, and Vonleh/Zeller as our core and I'll take it EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. (If Lance returned to form it would just be icing on the cake.) 

     

    I just don't see any world where New York is trading the 4 and some other guy for Kemba and 9.  The Knicks are looking for a bonafide star, and there are 4 tier one studs who have a great chance at getting there.  Kemba hasn't separated himself as a point guard to be a star, and 9 isn't going to get it either.  If they trade it, it will be for an all-star player, or keep it and bank on Mudiay becoming another Westbrook.

    I just don't see any world where New York is trading the 4 and some other guy for Kemba and 9. The Knicks are looking for a bonafide star, and there are 4 tier one studs who have a great chance at getting there. Kemba hasn't separated himself as a point guard to be a star, and 9 isn't going to get it either. If they trade it, it will be for an all-star player, or keep it and bank on Mudiay becoming another Westbrook.


    The thought is that they're not high on Mudiay.

    The thought is that they're not high on Mudiay.

    seems like they really wanted a big man

    If I controlled the Knicks ...yeah it would be a big man In draft that I picked.





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