Man, this shit is sad. I think everybody here, no matter your political leaning, is pissed the game got taken away, and for those that live around Charlotte, the hit on the city's finances, image, and business prospects are massive and embarrassing. People all over the internet talking about how backwards and bigoted Charlotte is, even though we all know its the complete opposite.
But thats not whats sad. While politics does play a major part in this and is a major cause of all the sniping, its bigger than that. This is a human issue that pretty much everyone should agree on.
Ziggy is right about the general population being about 10% gay. Always has been, always will be, they just feel safer to come out now. And sure, you may think thats not a significant number to be all up in arms about. But only 4% of the population is Asian, and it'd be wrong to enact any discriminatory laws against them. So the numbers don't matter.
The truth of the matter is that the Charlotte city council tried to be progressive and enact an anti discrimination law for the LGBT community. Why do we need this you say? Well ideally, we wouldn't need any anti discrimination law in the first place, except for the fact that black people, women, and even the disabled were all severely discriminated against to the point that legislation needed to be put in place. And because the LGBT weren't originally included, it is quite prudent and fair to add this class of people to give equal protection to ALL classes of people. Its necessary because backward ass people think they'll catch the gay if they serve a member a pizza, or go to hell if they dare provide any kind of service or act of kindness to them.
It was necessary because gay people weren't allowed to receive spousal benefits for taxes, wills, estates, weren't allowed to adopt, passed over for jobs even though qualified, and of course, not be served cake or pizza simply because of who they're attracted to. So to make sure that individuals and business can't continue to get away with such outright bigotry, Charlotte tried joining about 200 other US cities that already enacted a similar law protecting an entire class of people who need it.
BUT THE BATHROOMS!!! OK, everyone can all agree we don't want pedophiles attacking our daughters (and sons). The point of the Charlotte ordinance was about equal protection, the bathroom part was a small line at the end. I can agree that maybe that part could've been left out, since transgendered folks probably went to the bathroom they wanted to anyway.
But if Pat and the GA were truly concerned about that, then they could've invalidated just that part. But they didn't. They decided that, no we don't want to allow Charlotte to protect this class of citizens, and opened up the ability for businesses to discriminate based solely on the suspicion of gayness. Which could be used as a front for any form of discrimination ("I thought that arab looking guy was gay"), and then took the extraordinary step of taking away the right to sue in local court. For discrimination. Of any kind.
BUT CAN'T YOU STILL SUE IN STATE COURT?? Sure, but its highly burdensome. State courts may be hundreds of miles away from your home, making it hard to travel back and forth for trial, and the state courts are even more booked, less staffed, is slower and completely prevents someone the ability to address their grievances and injuries within any reasonable time period . Why did P & the GA create this burden for no reason? Really, why? There is no good policy reason to make it exponentially harder for someone legitimately discriminated against to access the justice system.
So that's why businesses are actually mad, the NBA is mad, protesters, citizens, and any compassionate soul who looks past the smoke is mad. It is not about bathrooms, otherwise it could've been taken care of easier. It is about outright discriminatory legislation that does not give a class of people equal protection. And that should make all citizens upset, because all men are supposed to be created equal.
I just want to say I am very sorry about what I said . It is no excuse . That's not me . I am the one who is lucky because you guys respect me and the little education I have. I am on some of the strongest pain pills out and fighting to not get 4 more Sergeys . I want all I offended to know I am very sorry .It's still no excuse
I quoted this for 2 reasons: 1) is in case Adam couldn't see the apology if he did in fact block you, and 2) this is the perfect example of how politicians artfully play to peoples fears, no matter how irrational.
Dave, as far as I know, you're a good dude. Passionate, ornery, and prone to frustration, but a good fan and member. I was actually pretty shocked by your previous post, as that didn't seem your character, but its all part of the learning experience, and I'm glad you can acknowledge it.
But that was a prime example of what P+GA wanted people to feel. That transgendered people would whip out their junk and rape everybody's daughters. They want people to conflate LGBT people with pedophiles and perverts, so you can stay angry and vote for them. Trans people are actually more scared of the general public harming them then people are to them. Does the ordinance make perverts more likely to take advantage and hide in bathrooms? I haven't really heard of an uptick of that in any of the cities that have already enacted such a law.
But a pervert is a pervert, they'll continue doing what they've always done. If they dressed as a women to get in the girls bathroom, they were already doing that before. Transgendered girls already used the girls bathroom, transgendered boys already used the boys bathroom. Nothing changed with Charlotte's law. Everything changed with Raleigh's law. They tried to fix a problem that didn't exist anyway, and harmed not only an entire class of citizens, but the entire Charlotte metropolitan area with loss of business, and actually the entire state as now we are constantly in the news as being a land of bigots.