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#21 cltblkhscoach Posted 08 February 2018 - 10:18 PM

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His highlight package I saw was all offense. He can hit a mid range jumper and he can shoot open 3s. Pretty good offensive rebounder. But I dont see him being a starter, he could be good off the bench for a few years.

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#22 iowabobcat Posted 10 February 2018 - 03:53 PM

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As I always feel challenged by salary cap rules, it we cannot find a trade option for Dwight this off season and we would like to free willy, if that be the bidding of Cho and Co, does a buyout reduce the cap hit by the amount of the buyout or does his 24m remain on the team's payroll regardless?

 

Unless Dwight is interested in a buyout and willing to take less money in order to be bought out, we would be responsible for his whole salary. So if this offseason both parties wanted a buyout and Dwight agreed to leave $8 mil on the table, we would have a salary cap hit of $15.5 mil rather than the full $23.5 mil. IMO, it would be best for both parties to do a buyout this season. Dwight isn't apart of the future and Zeller/Hernangomez need minutes. Also it would free us up some cap space without taking on another contract. For Dwight, it would allow him to hit FA a year earlier at age 32, and not waste a year playing for a team that won't be making the playoffs. 


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#23 Adam42R Posted 10 February 2018 - 04:02 PM

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Thanks Iowa, that's very helpful and interesting POV on free agency. Do wonder if this year us an unideal year to be a free agent with how right money is though.
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#24 iowabobcat Posted 10 February 2018 - 04:20 PM

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Thanks Iowa, that's very helpful and interesting POV on free agency. Do wonder if this year us an unideal year to be a free agent with how right money is though.

 

I agree that this is not a good year to be a FA. Though if he were to be bought out, he could take less money in Year 1 on a new deal and knowing that he's still getting paid whatever amount he would have agreed to with CHA


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#25 pellom Posted 10 February 2018 - 05:25 PM

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Unless Dwight is interested in a buyout and willing to take less money in order to be bought out, we would be responsible for his whole salary. So if this offseason both parties wanted a buyout and Dwight agreed to leave $8 mil on the table, we would have a salary cap hit of $15.5 mil rather than the full $23.5 mil. IMO, it would be best for both parties to do a buyout this season. Dwight isn't apart of the future and Zeller/Hernangomez need minutes. Also it would free us up some cap space without taking on another contract. For Dwight, it would allow him to hit FA a year earlier at age 32, and not waste a year playing for a team that won't be making the playoffs.


It seems more likely we’ll keep Dwight until the deadline next year than take back matching money + assets and whatever team trades for him decides to negotiate a buyout.
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#26 Adam42R Posted 10 February 2018 - 08:01 PM

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It seems more likely we’ll keep Dwight until the deadline next year than take back matching money + assets and whatever team trades for him decides to negotiate a buyout.


A lot of what I keep noodling around in my head assumes a shakeup in either coaching philosophy or coaching staff. If nothing changes, then I totally agree with you that he's likely here another 362 days.
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#27 JGib23 Posted 11 February 2018 - 12:18 PM

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Honestly, I really like Clifford but, I feel like it’s time for new direction.

New GM
New Coach
Roster turnover this summer, (meaning hopefully a buyout of Dwight to free up playing time for Cody and Willy)

Willy splitting time with Cody seems like a good 1/2 center rotation and at a good combined price total.

Dwight won’t take kindly to being benched so, I don’t see Willy getting any significant time this year barring an injury
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#28 Elden Payton Posted 11 February 2018 - 08:32 PM

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Willy is a good player and this is a good trade.

I think we'll trade him in the off season though.

Dwight has value as an expiring and I think we'll keep Cody around.

I could see Frank, Dwight and Willy being traded.

I doubt we'd buyout Dwight and he could land us a late first IMO.
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#29 cltblkhscoach Posted 18 March 2018 - 11:56 PM

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Well...ole Cliff just dont give a damn no more.

http://nba.nbcsports...impression=true

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#30 Elden Payton Posted 19 March 2018 - 02:59 AM

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Well...ole Cliff just dont give a damn no more.

http://nba.nbcsports...impression=true


Clifford is killing whatever chemistry we had left.

He has to go at this point IMO.
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#31 Adam42R Posted 19 March 2018 - 07:42 AM

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Well...ole Cliff just dont give a damn no more.

http://nba.nbcsports...impression=true

Honestly, what the heck is the value, short or long term with airing that out like that? I don't know if that's a backhand at Cho, because he got rid of Cliff's oh-so-ready-to-defend JOB, or the organization, or just that he was taking swipes at all the couch-coach field out there. But what the heck does that serve... anyone?
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#32 GeraldWallaceMVP Posted 19 March 2018 - 11:03 AM

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It's time for Cliff to go


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#33 Buzzau Posted 19 March 2018 - 06:54 PM

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Looks like Willy got the message.
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#34 cltblkhscoach Posted 19 March 2018 - 07:04 PM

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17 points in the 1st half....I guess public denouncing still works lol. What in the world...

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#35 WIAN Posted 19 March 2018 - 07:46 PM

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Been saying it for the longest you wanna play for Cliff just hit a couple of shots. To hell with whatever else you can or can't do he shows his gratitude to shot makers. See Gary Neal, Mo Williams, Linn, Lamb, once a week Frank, etc.
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#36 Keetch Posted 20 March 2018 - 03:46 AM

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Reading that kind of pisses me off.

Its mind-blowing to me to read Cliff saying these things about a guy while coaching such a hugely under-achieving team. Cliff has a credibility problem. Kind of like if Trump defended truth as a virtue.
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#37 Mustachio Posted 21 March 2018 - 11:21 AM

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I can't stand Clifford. He's done this exact thing since he got here. It's the same thing Jurgen Klinnsman got fired for with the USMNT.

They both spend 90% of the time denouncing everything they see. They both operate as if the teams were over confident... Which couldn't be further from the truth. It's disguised as plain speak and truth telling when it's really nothing more than excusing and scapegoating.

It hurts the team and culture to hear how awful you are all the time. Clifford is nothing... We'd have the same or better record over the past 5 years with ANY other coach.
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#38 GeraldWallaceMVP Posted 21 March 2018 - 02:50 PM

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I feel like the only year Clifford made a big impact on the teams success was the first Al Jefferson year, when he turned Al into a top 3 center and created a defense to surround him
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#39 spaceshoes Posted 23 March 2018 - 10:27 AM

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Numbers don't lie:
Dwight starting: 31-41 record
Willy starting: 1-0 with a 61 point victory.

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