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#1 Twan's Kin Posted 13 April 2018 - 05:37 PM

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Who should be the new coach now that Clifford is gone? I know many of you like David Fizdale. Was/Is Kevin McHale a good coach?


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#2 dav7z Posted 13 April 2018 - 07:28 PM

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McHale  I think is a little to old style. Heard a rumor Jerry Stackhouse is in the running . He is coaching the Raptors G league team now . I know another Carolina person .

 

 Good thread to discuss a new coach. Me I have no idea who I would want . . Me I think we going to be looking at a Houston or Golden State assistant , And speeding the game up.

 

 I really don't want this to be a part of a 1307 reply GM thread . Putting ever thing their slows a lot of board traffic down big time.


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#3 cltblkhscoach Posted 13 April 2018 - 07:58 PM

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Mchale got on board with the new offense style but he didnt connect well with those players in Houston.

Stackhouse has been another hot name mentioned too. Im in the minority on Silas Jr.

I still think they will give George Karl a courtesy call out of respect.

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#4 Mich_Mercer Posted 13 April 2018 - 07:59 PM

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I'm not sure who I want but I kind of want a younger up and coming guy.... whoever that may be.
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#5 dav7z Posted 13 April 2018 - 08:05 PM

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Me to a young and up and coming is the way I want us to go all so.  That's  why I haven't  ruled out Stackhouse in my mind is age.  I know nothing at all about his coaching.


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#6 Adam42R Posted 13 April 2018 - 08:18 PM

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All in on the Fiz or Vant. Don't know what to think of Stack but really don't get a warm and fuzzy when it becomes UNC West. Super against the McHale idea.
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#7 Elden Payton Posted 13 April 2018 - 08:22 PM

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Jerry Stackhouse with Silas as Associate head coach.

Add Mark Price to the staff.

Stackhouse won the G league title with Toronto affiliate Raptors905.

He's a workaholic by all accounts, loves tape and specialises in offensive sets, getting guys good shots etc.

Former lotto pick, UNC connection, 18 year pro and is probably the best coaching prospect available.

Makes a lot of sense IMO.
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#8 WIAN Posted 13 April 2018 - 08:28 PM

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Jerry Stackhouse with Silas as Associate head coach.

Add Mark Price to the staff.

Stackhouse won the G league title with Toronto affiliate Raptors905.

He's a workaholic by all accounts, loves tape and specialises in offensive sets, getting guys good shots etc.

Former lotto pick, UNC connection, 18 year pro and is probably the best coaching prospect available.

Makes a lot of sense IMO.


Think my perception of Silas would change for the worse if he agreed to that.
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#9 WIAN Posted 13 April 2018 - 08:31 PM

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Fitz or Monty would peak my interest. Not sure what the plan is with the assistants but looking at what happened in Golden St w/ Jackson and the mess with the Knicks I want the new guy to have his or her (Beck Hammon's name will surface) own staff.
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#10 Elden Payton Posted 13 April 2018 - 08:32 PM

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Think my perception of Silas would change for the worse if he agreed to that.


How so?

Fizdale would be very good IMO but Stackhouse + Silas could be great if we are in fact rebuilding.

If we promoted Silas to HC, I doubt that Stackhouse would join us to be either Associate HC or Lead assistant etc.

Silas isn't some bum coach, he'd walk into an assistant position with any team in the league IMO.
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#11 pellom Posted 13 April 2018 - 08:50 PM

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How so?

Fizdale would be very good IMO but Stackhouse + Silas could be great if we are in fact rebuilding.

If we promoted Silas to HC, I doubt that Stackhouse would join us to be either Associate HC or Lead assistant etc.

Silas isn't some bum coach, he'd walk into an assistant position with any team in the league IMO.


Silas might get the Orlando head coach job.
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#12 dav7z Posted 13 April 2018 - 09:09 PM

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   I liked Price hear  and he would be a good shooting coach.  Sounds like Stackhouse is ready  and could be a good hire .  A defensive stopper   would be needed badly  to help our guys out on that end of the floor.  Oakley  was real good for us with big men  . Just a thought  his age scars me though  . We can't play soft at the five.  I think Silas needs to go because he keeps shades of Clifford still hear. 


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#13 Elden Payton Posted 13 April 2018 - 10:07 PM

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I liked Price hear and he would be a good shooting coach. Sounds like Stackhouse is ready and could be a good hire . A defensive stopper would be needed badly to help our guys out on that end of the floor. Oakley was real good for us with big men . Just a thought his age scars me though . We can't play soft at the five. I think Silas needs to go because he keeps shades of Clifford still hear.


Silas preceded Clifford though!

I don't like the nepotism but at the end of the day, in this case it works in our favour.

Silas is one of the best Assistants in the league and is a real asset to this organisation IMO.
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#14 Hornets686 Posted 13 April 2018 - 10:10 PM

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Heres a new name... My Yankees hired Aaron Boone... How bout we hire Brent Barry? Very similar, familys have been around their leagues forever, sticking with broadcasters, Barry could be a prime candidate if he wants to make the transition. Barry is widely respected around the NBA and understands the finer points of the game, as evidenced by his thoughtful analysis.


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#15 WIAN Posted 13 April 2018 - 10:21 PM

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How so?

Fizdale would be very good IMO but Stackhouse + Silas could be great if we are in fact rebuilding.

If we promoted Silas to HC, I doubt that Stackhouse would join us to be either Associate HC or Lead assistant etc.

Silas isn't some bum coach, he'd walk into an assistant position with any team in the league IMO.


If he has zero aspirations of becoming a head coach sure sit behind a first timer again. I'd like to think he has dreams of being the lead guy.
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#16 Elden Payton Posted 13 April 2018 - 10:26 PM

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If he has zero aspirations of becoming a head coach sure sit behind a first timer again. I'd like to think he has dreams of being the lead guy.


I'm pretty sure he would just like 99 percent of other assistants.

He's got job security here and as we've shown, we will let him speak to other teams.

Getting Stackhouse or Fizdale should be priority IMO.

Keeping Silas should be our priority after that.
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#17 GeraldWallaceMVP Posted 13 April 2018 - 11:03 PM

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Fizdale or bust
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#18 Adam42R Posted 13 April 2018 - 11:21 PM

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Elden, Associate HC is lead Assistant. And there's a lot wrong with Silas if you are bringing in a new coach and presumably, a new system. It matters not if that's to rebuild or just change direction. How do you direct players to what you are doing with six years of legacy and relationship just steps away and subordinate? How does Silas convince a player to buy in to new system when he's been professing a different ideology to the same player for years up until a month ago?

They may retain him, but I hope not given what they appear to be doing. I think he's got better potential as a HC somewhere that he's fresh and had a youthful team to impart what he knows.
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#19 Elden Payton Posted 14 April 2018 - 12:25 AM

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Elden, Associate HC is lead Assistant. And there's a lot wrong with Silas if you are bringing in a new coach and presumably, a new system. It matters not if that's to rebuild or just change direction. How do you direct players to what you are doing with six years of legacy and relationship just steps away and subordinate? How does Silas convince a player to buy in to new system when he's been professing a different ideology to the same player for years up until a month ago?

They may retain him, but I hope not given what they appear to be doing. I think he's got better potential as a HC somewhere that he's fresh and had a youthful team to impart what he knows.

I know what Associate Head Coach is!

Stack could do better than one of those titles.

The point is keeping Silas in one of those job titles.

He's got a good job on merit, players should be happy to have an assistant of his caliber.

I don't think him being retained will hurt us in the long run in any way.
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#20 QC Thundercats Posted 14 April 2018 - 10:04 AM

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I think I’m on the Fizdale bandwagon now. Got a severely raw deal in Memphis. But good background, seems passionate and works hard, has big time players vouch for him, is a good quote on tv, seems to favor new style basketball...

As for Silas, I don’t think his brief run as head coach shows who he really would be. If he in fact has his own style and ideas, for 1, he wouldn’t have been able to implement it on the fly in the middle of the season. That needs to be installed in the off-season and drilled into the players heads over the course of the year to show any impact.

For 2, if they fully expected Cliff to return at any point in the season, then you would need to keep the system running by as is to try to keep it as seamless as possible for his return. It was still cliffs team, it would’ve disrupted the routine and rhythm (I know, there wasn’t much of one) of the vets, could be perceived as disrespectful to cliff, and would’ve required changing the system and principles twice during the season when he came back.

But he absolutely should be interviewed to see what his own ideas for a system is. It very well may be the modern style we’re all hoping for.

Stackhouse is the hot name it seems. If he’s the best candidate I’m down. The only drawback is, while I’m a Carolina guy and think the UNC/Hornets thing is overplayed by people, if Stack struggles early on, than the Carolina thing will be annoyingly over exaggerated, and he won’t have the opportunity to have growing pains here like other coaches would.
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