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#261 dnbman Posted 12 May 2019 - 12:30 PM

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So let me get this clear you guys are fine with paying the same amount of money for just Kemba a but "omg Kemba and Beal its tooo much money"

 

It wouldn't be a bad thing to have those guys on big contracts as long as you have a plan to fill out the rest of the team. The problem is that you have Beal for two more years and little options to add anything to get him to stay. So, if he leaves in two years, and you've traded all of your youth, at best you're looking at Kemba and cap space. 

 

I don't mind Beal and his contract. I mind Beal at the cost. 

 

And I'm not one of those people that says we can't draft or develop youth. Like most teams, I think we've been hit or miss. Unfortunately, we've often missed when it mattered most.


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#262 Adam42R Posted 12 May 2019 - 03:09 PM

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Here comes McRoberts, the throw to Walker, it's in the aaaaaiiiiirrrr, YESSSSS! Bobcats win it! My my my, Kemba Walker. Steve Martin - Toronto 12/18/2013
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#263 Chef Posted 12 May 2019 - 03:22 PM

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Someone should tell him about the team going for a three peat who is but far the heavy favourites that have 3 lottery picks and at least 2 on the bench or injured

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#264 Swedd523 Posted 12 May 2019 - 04:52 PM

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2018 NBA Champions:  multiple lottery picks

2017 NBA Champions:  multiple lottery picks

2016 NBA Champions:  multiple lottery picks

2015 NBA Champions:  multiple lottery picks

2014 NBA Champions:  multiple lottery picks

2013 NBA Champions:  multiple lottery picks

2012....

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I think you get the point


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#265 cltblkhscoach Posted 12 May 2019 - 06:39 PM

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Argument either way is pointless because everyone measures success differently

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#266 Adam42R Posted 12 May 2019 - 10:54 PM

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Someone should tell him about the team going for a three peat who is but far the heavy favourites that have 3 lottery picks and at least 2 on the bench or injured


One could get a laugh that a team with the most lotto picks of the last decade just got bounced in the second round of the playoffs by a team with none. I know I am. But it's mostly that I loathe the notion that team building is some easy process of lose, cash out in the lotto, repeat until you have a championship contender.
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#267 buckets Posted 12 May 2019 - 11:14 PM

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Weird accounting of lottery picks. Lopez was a Free Agent who cares where BKN drafted him. Jabari and Thon *were* Milwaukee lottery picks but apparently the Bucks are credited for scrubbing their existence.
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#268 Swedd523 Posted 12 May 2019 - 11:42 PM

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Weird accounting of lottery picks. Lopez was a Free Agent who cares where BKN drafted him. Jabari and Thon *were* Milwaukee lottery picks but apparently the Bucks are credited for scrubbing their existence.

"narrative"


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#269 Chef Posted 13 May 2019 - 04:46 AM

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Weird accounting of lottery picks. Lopez was a Free Agent who cares where BKN drafted him. Jabari and Thon *were* Milwaukee lottery picks but apparently the Bucks are credited for scrubbing their existence.

 

and the entire post goes up in smoke if giannis and kawahi were taken 1 pick before they were


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#270 Chef Posted 13 May 2019 - 05:25 AM

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One could get a laugh that a team with the most lotto picks of the last decade just got bounced in the second round of the playoffs by a team with none. I know I am. But it's mostly that I loathe the notion that team building is some easy process of lose, cash out in the lotto, repeat until you have a championship contender.

 

it is a way to do it but that the narrative has become so reductive that it is the only way is just as erroneous and disingenuous as the twitter post itself.

 

philly's problems are three fold: coaching, the FO making bad team building trades in terms of obvious fit and their "star" piece being suspect both character and basketball fit wise. 


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#271 Adam42R Posted 13 May 2019 - 05:49 AM

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it is a way to do it but that the narrative has become so reductive that it is the only way is just as erroneous and disingenuous as the twitter post itself.


I am just there for the laugh. I don't argue there are merits to shutting down any team mid season due to misfortune and seeing if your can win a Tim Duncan prize. But that it's such a stupid repeated only-path to success with its own hashtag has just worn me the absolute wrong way.
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#272 dnbman Posted 13 May 2019 - 06:24 PM

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I am just there for the laugh. I don't argue there are merits to shutting down any team mid season due to misfortune and seeing if your can win a Tim Duncan prize. But that it's such a stupid repeated only-path to success with its own hashtag has just worn me the absolute wrong way.

 

Yeah. There's no surefire realistic strategy to success. Obviously, the better you are at player research and development and establishing a successful team culture, it gets easier. But aside from that, there are just too many factors. 

 

It's just frustrating to be okay but not great, so the typical response is to burn it down and start over.


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#273 GeraldWallaceMVP Posted 30 May 2019 - 07:30 PM

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#274 Chef Posted 30 May 2019 - 07:35 PM

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Capella would be such a hornets move.

Get Gordon and Tucker and I will be impressed

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#275 dnbman Posted 30 May 2019 - 07:55 PM

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Any chance Houston sees Batum and 12 as a nice reboot?


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#276 buckets Posted 30 May 2019 - 07:56 PM

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Hornets make sense here. Rockets need large wings and matching salaries.
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#277 dnbman Posted 30 May 2019 - 07:59 PM

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Hornets make sense here. Rockets need large wings and matching salaries.

 

So maybe a CP3/Batum and pick swap or something like that?


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#278 Mustachio Posted 30 May 2019 - 07:59 PM

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Capella would be such a hornets move.

Get Gordon and Tucker and I will be impressed


Capella, Gordon, Tucker

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Batum, Biyombo, 12 and 36
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#279 Adam42R Posted 30 May 2019 - 08:28 PM

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Capella, Gordon, Tucker

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Batum, Biyombo, 12 and 36

 

Heck yeah, sign me up.  Tucker on that team friendly deal, Clint ... not sure what to make of him in isolation, and EG, not a huge fan but it's one year and done.  I'd definitely like this.


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#280 Mustachio Posted 30 May 2019 - 08:50 PM

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Heck yeah, sign me up. Tucker on that team friendly deal, Clint ... not sure what to make of him in isolation, and EG, not a huge fan but it's one year and done. I'd definitely like this.


Kemba / Graham /
Gordon / Bacon / Monk
Bridges / MKG /
Frank / Tucker / Marvin
Capella / Zeller / Willy

I understand Houston wouldn't go or it... But it works really great for us. I think that's definitely a playoff team.

Renounce Parker 5 mil and that trade saves you an extra 5.4 million next season. Might be enough to stay under lux tax with Kemba.
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